September 2008 Web414 Meeting — Thursday, September 11th, 2008 — 7pm
Topics: Joomla! (and Drupal and Wordpress), BarCampMilwaukee3
Dan Knauss of New Local Media will talk about Joomla, his experiences using it, and it's relation to other systems like Drupal and WordPress. (See some links he's posted.)
Also, we're coming up to less than a month before BarCampMilwaukee3 which is happening Oct 4th/5th, 2008, so any last minute planning and discussion should take place now.
Bucketworks
1340 North 6th Street
Milwaukee, WI 53212
USA
Also listed at Upcoming and Facebook.
One more thing... We'd appreciate if you use the signup here (you must be logged in) even if you signed-up elsewhere, just so we get a good idea of how many people plan to attend.
BarCampMilwaukee3 — Saturday, October 4th, 2008 — 10am — Sunday, October 5th, 2008 — 4pm
Bucketworks
1340 North 6th Street
Milwaukee, WI 53212
USA
BarCampMilwaukee3 is an ad-hoc gathering born from the desire for people to share and learn in an open environment. It is an intense event with discussions, demos, and interaction from participants.
Please visit barcampmilwaukee.com for more information. This is a free event, thanks to our sponsors, but we are accepting donations if you'd like to help out.
(It's also listed on Facebook if you want to invite your friends over there) but make sure they actually sign up at barcampmilwaukee.com as well.)
Lets all take a moment away from griping about our future for a minute and look at this nice picture and article of our friend Nikol from M. Magazine.

Look at me! I'm the Web414 Nikol stalker!
There is usually an IRC backchannel at Web414 Meetings... Here's a partial log from the Web414 August 2008 Meeting. (Show me the whole thing!)
(07:31:34 PM) iraster: I made it!
(07:31:36 PM) tapps: gotta love AIR
(07:31:46 PM) KeVroN: AIRtastic
(07:31:48 PM) iraster: Linux is easy!
(07:32:00 PM) iraster: unless you want AIR on Linux :(
(07:32:16 PM) rohdesign: Linux is easy with a PHd!
(07:33:12 PM) tapps: linux isn't as easy as beer smores...
(07:33:26 PM) hypnagogic: you've all heard of inhale for linux--it's like an air knockoff (http://tinyurl.com/5c3kak)
(07:33:29 PM) rohdesign: or as tasty
(07:33:34 PM) KeVroN: beer smores are the shizz
(07:36:05 PM) heygabe [n=gabe@h69-131-24-92.nwblwi.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] entered the room.
Last year, we prepared a business card to promote web414:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johndecember/2763174220/
Would you like to be on the 2.0 version? We share the cost of printing these among people contributing domain names.
If so,
- you must be a member of the web414.com site and have attended at least 1 meeting over the past year; and
- you must have a working domain name (up and running) that represents your work (your domain or a domain that you've had major contributions to); and
- you must have set aside about $4 per domain name you contribute for printing costs (plus a donation (if you have not already made one) to barcampmilwaukee3); and
- you must email me (john@december.com) and use the subject line "web414 card") as soon as possible, but no later than 11:59 pm CDT on September 11, 2008 with your domain name(s). Domain names will be listed in the order received (unless the designer moves names for best use of space). We'd like to list it without the "www" so we can save space. You can have multiple domain names on the card if there is room. In 2007, several people got multiple domain names.
Also, I had suggested these might be used for a fundraiser for barcampmilwaukee3 and collect money at the same time, but let's keep it simple. If you get a domain on the web414 card, you are on your honor to also contribute some $$ to web414's sponsorship of barcampmilwaukee3.
I'll be in contact with you about the card printing payment and your domain name when you email me.
- I'll collect domains until September 11, 2008
- I'll make the overnightprints.com order as soon as final art is done: rounded corners, glossy both sides, 1000 cards
- I'll figure the exact share of the printing cost, and you can pay me for the printing cost by cash or paypal when I give you the cards
- For the donation to barcampmilwaukee3 (any amount you wish; if you've not already made one), go directly to http://www.barcampmilwaukee.com/donate
Some reading relative to the topic for web414 in September.
August 2008 Web414 Meeting — Thursday, August 14th, 2008 — 7pm
Topics: Flossin’ Flash Flex and AIR, BarCampMilwaukee3
Romke de Haan will be giving a presentation on working with Flash, Flex and AIR, developing version two of the program FlossyFX for the world famous DJ duo Flosstradamous.
We'll also have a BarCampMilwaukee3 update, and if you have any potential sponsors, have them contact pete@2xnetworks.com.
Bucketworks
1340 North 6th Street
Milwaukee, WI 53212
USA
Also listed at Upcoming and Facebook.
One more thing... We'd appreciate if you use the signup here (you must be logged in) even if you signed-up elsewhere, just so we get a good idea of how many people plan to attend.
Harper Reed, CTO of skinnyCorp — Wednesday, August 6th, 2008 — 5:30pm
Harper Reed will speak about skinnyCorp and its projects. Presented by Moander Law Firm and hosted by Web414, Bucketworks, and Spreenkler. skinnyCorp is an umbrella corporation for the creation of "interesting web communities" including Threadless, an online t-shirt retailer and community of designers which democratically selects the best designs for printing and sale. "With the help of our community, Threadless selects and prints hundreds of amazing new designs each year awarding over one million dollars to artists around the world." Other projects of skinnyCorp include NakedandAngry, YayHooray, and ExtraTasty.
Bucketworks
1340 North 6th Street
Milwaukee, WI 53212
USA
There is usually an IRC backchannel at Web414 Meetings... Here's a partial log from the Web414 July 2008 Meeting.
(07:46:09 PM) Video_Villain: the agreement: what you will and will not do
(07:46:14 PM) iraster: i made it!
(07:46:32 PM) Video_Villain: the license - who owns what and what are they allowed to do with it?
(07:46:41 PM) iraster: hmmm, should I start using contracts?
(07:46:52 PM) Video_Villain: Privacy and non disclosure
(07:47:05 PM) Video_Villain: schedule: when payment and milestones are do
(07:47:29 PM) talentline411: setting expectations... always a good thing
(07:47:30 PM) Video_Villain: scheduling: know thyself
(07:47:45 PM) Video_Villain: respect your client
(07:47:52 PM) KeVroN [n=KeVroN@h69-131-24-92.nwblwi.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] entered the room.
(07:47:57 PM) iraster: scheduling the raster way: fuck sleep
(07:48:02 PM) rohdesign: heh
(07:48:02 PM) Video_Villain: but know how to peg the difficult ones
(07:48:12 PM) Video_Villain: (that's my favorite!!!)
(07:48:21 PM) iraster: PITA
(07:48:27 PM) KeVroN: i have one in the buttttt
(07:48:27 PM) Video_Villain: I want a pony!!!!
(07:48:33 PM) iraster: charge them double... or triple
(07:48:34 PM) littletinyfish: I thought my last one would be easy, but damn ifthat was not the case.
(07:48:58 PM) iraster: change orders!
(07:49:11 PM) Video_Villain: ::schedule downtime
(07:49:28 PM) iraster: downtime? ha... don't sleep!
(07:49:33 PM) Video_Villain: - time tracking
(07:49:38 PM) Video_Villain: --track everything
(07:49:49 PM) blissdev: ooh hierarchy
(07:49:52 PM) Video_Villain: --record task and time spent
(07:50:06 PM) iraster: track how many beers you drink while working on the project
(07:50:16 PM) Video_Villain: --take personal notes
(07:50:21 PM) blissdev: what do you use that data for raster?
(07:50:28 PM) rohdesign: except for raster that would be boyland sodas as he doesn't drink beer
(07:50:34 PM) Video_Villain: --our time is important
(07:50:37 PM) iraster: document everything! it will come in useful in the future
(07:51:05 PM) Video_Villain: do an end-of-project wrap-up with yourself
(07:51:05 PM) iraster: root beer!
(07:51:15 PM) iraster: have a meeting with yourself
(07:51:25 PM) Video_Villain: --learn from your mistakes
(07:51:36 PM) Video_Villain: TIme Tracking Apps
(07:51:44 PM) Video_Villain: --calendar.google.com
(07:51:48 PM) blissdev: man, she didn't put my suggestion on there
(07:51:49 PM) iraster: i used a text file... super easy
(07:51:50 PM) Video_Villain: --getharvest.com
(07:51:57 PM) Video_Villain: --tickspot.com
(07:52:07 PM) blissdev: (uh oh she changed it fast)
(07:52:08 PM) Video_Villain: billing!!!
(07:52:15 PM) Video_Villain: --be consistent
(07:52:23 PM) Video_Villain: --keep good records, and backup!
(07:52:38 PM) Video_Villain: --don't forget your friends...at the IRS!
(07:52:41 PM) iraster: backup... hell yes! use AmazonS3 like raster does
(07:52:43 PM) Video_Villain: (my friend and ours)
(07:52:50 PM) iraster: get a good accountant!
(07:53:27 PM) iraster: a *really* good accountant
(07:53:28 PM) littletinyfish: Freelance taxes last year cost me 25% of what I earned.
(07:53:54 PM) rohdesign: ouchie
(07:54:00 PM) Video_Villain: ask jeramey for the ditching the govenrment
(07:54:09 PM) Video_Villain: --offer multiple methods of payment
(07:54:16 PM) Video_Villain: --clean legible invoicing
(07:54:20 PM) rohdesign: eggs, milk, stones
(07:54:37 PM) Video_Villain: Getting Paid
(07:54:57 PM) Video_Villain: --Make it clear what you expect and when
(07:55:07 PM) Video_Villain: --penalties for late payment
(07:55:34 PM) Video_Villain: --reward the ones that pay on time
(07:55:48 PM) Video_Villain: --legal action (kick um around all the time)
(07:55:51 PM) KeVroN: hris has
(07:55:53 PM) iraster: i think i break most of these rules
(07:55:54 PM) KeVroN: chris has
(07:56:14 PM) littletinyfish: I wanna hear Chris talk about that.
(07:56:19 PM) littletinyfish: We need more freelancing seminars.
(07:56:27 PM) Video_Villain: --re-evaluate payment schedule if necessary
(07:56:47 PM) littletinyfish: JeremyJohns.
(07:57:41 PM) KeVroN: what percent? 20-30
(07:58:35 PM) littletinyfish: Jeremy Favre
(08:02:04 PM) KeVroN: JerameyFavre
(08:04:22 PM) heygab1 [n=gabe_2@rrcs-98-100-174-52.central.biz.rr.com] entered the room.
(08:05:22 PM) heygab1: Should I stream the Chat?
(08:05:44 PM) blissdev: stream the chat?
(08:05:57 PM) blissdev: on ustream?
(08:06:05 PM) heygab1: Sure. CamTwist it. :)
(08:10:29 PM) littletinyfish: Take stickers!!!
(08:11:59 PM) KeVroN: Luv this idea!
(08:13:58 PM) heygab1 left the room.
(08:17:19 PM) Video_Villain: they are trying on shirts, and modeling them for a startup.
(08:20:03 PM) heygabe left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
(08:20:29 PM) heygabe [n=gabe@rrcs-98-100-174-52.central.biz.rr.com] entered the room.
(08:20:45 PM) heygabe: Ok. I'm here.
(08:20:57 PM) heygabe: And I'll be streaming this channel on uStream.
(08:24:16 PM) heygabe: Welcome to Web414's July Meeting.
(08:26:07 PM) heygabe: No live stream is available tonight, but thanks to the magic of the internet, we're able to stream the #web414 channel on Freenode.net over Ustream. Wow. That's really stupid.
(08:27:35 PM) talentline411 left the room (quit: "ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0/2008052906]").
(08:28:26 PM) littletinyfish: Back in action.
(08:34:05 PM) blissdev: Anyone going to Barcamp Madison?
(08:34:46 PM) blissdev: end of this month
(08:37:00 PM) littletinyfish: The end of the month has me very busy.
(08:37:26 PM) blissdev: i think ashe is and perhaps mathias
(08:37:30 PM) blissdev: other than that idk
(08:38:30 PM) heygabe: I'd like to go, but I don't want to take up space that someoen from the madison community might be better of using.
(08:38:41 PM) heygabe: Esepcialy since I won't be there or the whole thing.
(08:38:48 PM) blissdev: Hmm... that's a good point, I wonder how full they will be.
(08:39:32 PM) heygabe: I'm going to move Twitteriffic Growl notifications down here too. :)
(08:42:29 PM) rohdesign: Can some developer types have a look at this open source conference registration app? Runs on Apache/PHP: http://vsis-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/information/conftool.en.html
(08:43:41 PM) littletinyfish: Beardless Pete!
(08:44:01 PM) heygabe: Srsly?
(08:44:02 PM) iraster: we need a drupal master to get barcampmke site up to date
(08:44:26 PM) rohdesign: something to manage people registering
(08:44:28 PM) heygabe: No Beard?
(08:44:32 PM) blissdev: haven't seen brad in awhile
(08:44:35 PM) littletinyfish: In the vid.
(08:44:39 PM) rohdesign: might there be a drupal plugin we can use for managing that?
(08:44:44 PM) heygabe: Oh.. Sad.
(08:44:47 PM) littletinyfish: IRL Pete is still quite bearded.
(08:44:55 PM) heygabe: I thought pete was going Babyface on us again.
(08:45:30 PM) littletinyfish: No, he's a Skoal man...too rugged to not have a beard.
(08:45:56 PM) littletinyfish: The Bucketworks logo kinda looks like the new MillerCoors logo.
(08:46:00 PM) iraster: maybe i will shave before bcmke3
(08:46:26 PM) iraster: as a fundraiser
(08:46:32 PM) heygabe: Don't be crazy.
(08:46:41 PM) littletinyfish: Auction off your beard hairs.
(08:46:44 PM) heygabe: There's no money in shaving.
(08:46:52 PM) heygabe: Except, you know, as a professional shaver.
(08:47:14 PM) blissdev: later irc peeps
(08:47:19 PM) blissdev left the room (quit: ).
(08:47:26 PM) heygabe: Blis says goodbye.
(08:47:37 PM) littletinyfish: VidGabe!
(08:47:40 PM) Video_Villain left the room (quit: ).
(08:47:49 PM) iraster: man, my modeling career is really going to take off now!
(08:47:50 PM) littletinyfish: Beardless VidGabe.
(08:48:13 PM) iraster: @heyg4braham!
(08:48:26 PM) littletinyfish: haha!
(08:48:59 PM) littletinyfish: When is BCMKE3?
(08:51:24 PM) iraster: bcmke3 is oct 4/5 2008
(08:51:41 PM) iraster: with pre-party event on oct 3 2008
(08:52:04 PM) littletinyfish: Sweeeeeeeeet.
(08:52:30 PM) iraster: videovillain is teh funny
(08:53:52 PM) iraster: wha wha wha waaaaaa!
(08:55:44 PM) heygabe: Someone describe using UStream to relay a IRC channel.
(08:55:50 PM) heygabe: Becuase that's neato-cool.
(08:56:35 PM) littletinyfish: Psyphy Machine
(08:56:39 PM) littletinyfish: GetDropBox.com
(08:56:44 PM) iraster: irc-tarded
(08:56:46 PM) littletinyfish: Javapassion.com
(08:57:01 PM) littletinyfish: Pencil Project.
(08:57:02 PM) iraster: heygabriel is irc-tarded
(08:57:26 PM) littletinyfish: Penny Arcade Expo
(08:58:07 PM) heygabe: Think about the bandwidth I'm wasting!
(09:01:10 PM) heygabe: Can I pimp Evernote?
(09:01:43 PM) heygabe: I've been lovin' Evernote. It's out of closed beta and the way it synchs across mutliple machines and the web is fantawesome.
(09:02:06 PM) heygabe: I kind of wish Basecamp worked the same way.
(09:02:29 PM) heygabe: And the i-Site integration for quick capturing notes is really, really cool.
(09:02:59 PM) heygabe: It does OCR on the pictures you upload and so the text in those pictures becomes searchable.
(09:03:03 PM) heygabe: that is all.
(09:10:13 PM) rohdesign left the room (quit: "See ya...").
(09:11:54 PM) heygabe: That'll do it for Web1414 Tonight, gang. I hope you weren't too disappointed. We'll resume regular broadcasts again in the future.
(09:12:03 PM) heygabe: Good Night Everybody
(09:13:57 PM) aufgehts [n=deg@CPE-70-92-21-28.wi.res.rr.com] entered the room.
(09:19:59 PM) littletinyfish left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
(09:23:47 PM) KeVroN left the room (quit: "Later Bitches!").
(09:25:24 PM) heygabe left the room (quit: ).
We've talked about the things created at the meetings being released under a Creative Commons license... but for a group effort like the above, how would we do that? Does each individual choose a license for their comments? Do we as a group, choose one, or does your use of the IRC channel act as compliance to a specific license of our choosing?
I'm really interested in getting into the web development scene in Milwaukee. I think there is a lot of talent here! My business develops awesome web applications, but the scales are tipped in the technical direction....now if only I can hook up cool design, I believe world domination (er, forget that) 'success beyond belief' will follow shortly.
I've been working with designers from outside the area - but there is so much to offer here, I just need to get into the scene and meet you all!
July 2008 Web414 Meeting — Tuesday, July 8th, 2008 — 7pm
Note: We've switched to Tuesday this time... Hopefully that doesn't screw up your plans, and will allow some new people to make it to the meeting.
Topics: Magento, Some Discussion, and BarCampMilwaukee3 Planning
KeVroN will tell us all about Magento, and we will also have a discussion on how freelancers or small business owners handle billing and invoicing of clients, as well as a "coolest thing/site" lightning round.
Plus planning for BarCampMilwaukee3, an update on BarCampMadison2, and the future of Bucketworks...
Bucketworks
1340 North 6th Street
Milwaukee, WI 53212
USA
Dinner? Not sure yet... We typically order food at 7PM and eat/mingle around 8PM. Please bring cash if you want to dine with us.
Models Needed! Teecycle is a site run by a local named Tim Cigelske that aims to recycle used shirts by selling them. Neat idea! Tim is looking for some models, and has asked Web414 to join the cause. If anyone wants to help Tim out and be a model, stick around after the meeting. Oh, and if you have shirts to donate to the cause, bring them too.)
Also listed at Upcoming and Facebook.
One more thing... We'd appreciate if you use the signup here (you must be logged in) even if you signed-up elsewhere, just so we get a good idea of how many people plan to attend.
Laptops aren't just for working...sometimes it's okay to just get away from it all for a bit. For over a decade I've been throwing casual little gaming events. With a facility like Bucketworks in town I thought I might be able to widen the scope of things and see what happens.
Saturday the 21st, if you like playing computer games, modding them, or just talking about the latest in high-end computer hardware and modifications, I'm going to be hanging out with some friends in the Greenhouse at Bucketworks sampling some of the latest offerings and relishing some old classics. I'm going to provide some tasty treats and discs with various demos and patches, and some switches and CAT5. Depending on the group there may even be some Flash coding. BYOC. And please donate to Bucketworks, and check out the Final Cut Pro presentation when you're there (see below).
Where:
Bucketworks (Entrepreneur's Greenhouse)
When:
Saturday, 21 June (Noon till night)
What:
Age of Conan, Armagetron, Quake III, Scorched 3D, Sins of a Solar Empire, StarCraft, Supreme Commander, Tribes, Unreal Tournament, WarCraft, Worms, and whatever else people have handy.
Final Cut Pro is able to edit film, TV, documentaries, graphics, animation and surround sound. CNN and cable news networks use Final Cut Pro exclusively, as well as major motion picture companies.
Daniel Hirsh was born and raised in Milwaukee and has worked on TV and motion picture filming and editing. He is the owner of Experimental Video Services and also works as a multimedia specialist for Stompernet in Atlanta, GA.
Where:
BUCKETWORKS
1340 N. 6th Street
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-305-1324
Presenter:
Daniel Hirsh
Experimental Video Services
Atlanta, GA
Questions? Contact Daniel Hirsh: daniel.hirsh (at) mac.com
- By rohdesign at 2008-06-17 21:06
- Calendar
Folks, we need to put a drop in the bucket... and no, I'm not talking about water... we got plenty of that!
During the storm, things got a little crazy (see Flickr) and there is water everywhere. It ain't pretty. If at all possible, can you put a drop in the bucket? If you've ever attended a Web414 or a MilwaukeeDevHouse, it would be cool if you could chip in a few bucks to help our little clubhouse make it through this disaster. Bucketworks has been a gracious host to us, and it's a time of need for them, so put a drop in the bucket and let's hope it adds up enough to get everything back to normal.
Right now Bucketworks is closed. Until the damage is assessed, they can't open again. What does that mean for the June 2008 Web414 Meeting? We're not sure yet... we may have to move it, as well as other events scheduled there in the near future. Like I said, there's a lot of water...
Jenn has a post on bucketworks.org that tells more, so please go there and see what is up...
And seriously, go pitch in some money! So far it's just Gabe and I that have done so, and that's pretty sad. I know there are others out there who can help, even if it's just $5 or $10.
(Originally posted on RasterWeb!)
Come join us for the second Web608 meeting.
The agenda is Andrew Shell presenting on Yahoo! SearchMonkey, Abraham Williams giving a recap of the LaunchMemphis Startup Weekend, and a brain storming session for Madison's Startup Weekend in September. Also if you would like to demo any nifty projects to the group, come ready to do so.
Location:
Extra Bold Portfolio School
121 S Pinckney St
Madison, WI53703
(608) 250-9253
Google Map
On Saturday night, June 7th, from 7-11 a miniDevHouse will be happening in downtown Madison. If interested send Abraham an email.
Find us: Twitter, Google Groups, and http://web608.org
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